Some Christians don’t act Christian at all.

I would just like to vent for a few minutes. Please bear with me – this will most definitely be beneficial for myself, and it may even prove to be somewhat helpful for you too.

You know what really irks me? Christians who don’t act like Christians at all. Why? Because I used to be one. I don’t like when people set themselves up as holy judges and execute spiritual verdicts on people when they’ve never walked in their shoes or shut their mouths long enough to listen to their struggles. The holy judgers take peoples’ questions and treat them like the asker’s absolute doctrine – when in all reality, all they were looking for in the first place was an honest answer for their inquiries.

Who gave you permission to judge? Who gave you permission to condemn who you know nothing about? Who gave you the go-ahead to speak with hate and insults to those who don’t believe exactly the same as you? You are not perfect! “Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye” (Matt. 7:5a).

I was perusing through different blogs and discussion forums when I came across someone asking a question. I don’t know if this was a legit question, or if this person really was mocking Jesus, being completely sarcastic, and attempting to cause problems. I don’t know. But what I do know is that the response given by this “pastor” on the site was completely out of line:

Dear God-mocking Maggot;

Thank you for taking the time out of your busy schedule of worshiping Satan and orally servicing anyone with a dollar to post this hateful message. The Holy Bible tells us that we are actually blessed by your persecution! Thanks for proving that we’re right.

Enjoy hell. I know that Jesus and I can’t wait to watch you burn in hell for all eternity. Oh, how we’ll laugh at you as you scream in agony! Shout Glory!!

Yours in Christ,
— P. E.

“Enjoy Hell”…?
“Jesus and I can’t wait to watch you burn in hell”…?
“We’ll laugh at you as you scream in agony”…?

Is not the call on Christians to share the Gospel, obey the will of the Father, and be Christ-like in our words and actions? Did I misunderstand the Word of God when He told us to speak the truth in love (Eph. 4:15a)? Was God joking when He had the penman write down I Corinthians 13?

A couple days ago someone posted a status on facebook calling homosexuals “unnatural, wicked beasts.” Alright, I agree with the “unnatural” and the “wicked” – all sinners are wicked; all Christians are wicked; we’re all human, and until we are complete in Heaven the flesh will continue to war with the spirit.

Name-calling is not Christ-like – argue what you will. Jesus called people “vipers,” and “foxes,” and He even called Peter “Satan.” I got that. But you’re not Jesus – not even close.

I responded to this status as graciously as I could muster. Your chances of winning the lost to Jesus Christ are far greater if you deal with them in grace and compassion. They are sinners, unknowledged in the things of God – they don’t know any better. It is true that the Scripture says in I Corinthians 6 that fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, thieves, coveters, drunks and many others will not inherit the kingdom of God. But we would do well to remember what Paul – who himself claimed to be the “chief of sinners” (I Tim. 1:15) – said directly after that: “And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God” (I Cor. 6:11).

Apart from the grace of God, we would be no different than all these other people you call “beasts,” “stupid,” and “idiots.” And such were some of you!

My comment drew a couple people into a discussion. Here are some snippets from their comments:

“Yeah, there should be compassion, but let me put it like this. To love something is to hate anything that is contrary to it. If you love God… you will hate sinners.

…the reason you people are so watered down and limp-wristed and think that God loves everyone and that we should love the sinner and hate just the sin is pure indisputable PROOF that you don’t read your Bible that God gave you.

…Why are we to love the sinner and hate the sin… we ought to hate both. I know God hated me before he saved me.”  – M. W.

God does not hate sinners. God loves sinners. You cannot say that God hates sinners and then quote Romans 5:8 and John 3:16. Proverbs 10:12 states, “Hatred stirreth up strifes: but love covereth all sins.”  Christ did not cleanse us with His blood because of His hate for us. He died for sinners because of His love for them!

II Peter 3:9 testifies that He is long-suffering; He is gracious. I John 4:8 says that He is love: “He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.”  We, as Christians, have lost our grace. We have lost the wonder of forgiveness and longsuffering. We have lost sight of what the Lord has saved us from – from what we once were before His transforming grace touched our lives. God help us.

“HATE and HATRED is the Christian way to save beastly, wicked, evil, demonic, satanic, godless, sodomistic, cross-dressing, un-manly, homosexual, skin-exposing, Christmas-celebrating, ignorant, stupid, idiotic sinners from sinning even more.”  – M. S.

I’m sorry, Sir, but you’re wrong. God has not commanded us to hate others. Yes, hate the sin, but love the sinner. You are, in fact, a sinner yourself. Did someone show hate to you? Did someone get in your face and shout and point and shred your life apart with their words while attempting to share the Gospel with you? Is that what compelled you to accept Christ as your Savior? I’m going to go out on a limb here and say probably not. While that may work on someone once in a great while, that is not the method most people will respond to.

It’s the judgemental, hate-filled, ungracious “Christians” that give the rest of those in the faith a bad name. You are not being Christ-like in your words and actions. You are not showing forth the grace of our Father. You are not letting your light shine before men. You are ever-darkening the light that other Christians are striving so hard to show forth. People are going to look at the hate you spew from your mouth and the attitudes your actions posess and say, “If that is what Christianity is all about, no thank you… I want nothing to do with it!”  So, in the end, what good has your hate accomplished? Nothing. You would do better to shut yourself up in a locked house and never speak to lost sinners again.

I’m going to close my rant with this. Christians have failed in the area of showing forth the love of Christ. Christians have fallen short in the area of trying to reach the lost for the cause of Christ. Christians have failed in the area of being Christians.

Feel free to comment as you please – but if you send me hate mail or tell me that I should sit down and be quiet, please save us both the time and frustration and don’t even bother.

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Posted on December 22, 2010, in Christian Life and tagged , , , , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 29 Comments.

  1. I feel sick! No wonder Christianity gets a bad name when there are people like this who have made up their own religion and follow their own idea of a god. Certainly their god has NO resemblance to the God of the Bible!

    I am reminded of a Church which invited two prospective pastors to preach on consecutive Sundays in order to decide which one to call to their Church. The same passage (basically on hell) was given to both pastors. Both preached pretty much the same thing but the decision to invite one was unanimous. The one who wasn’t invited asked for the reason and was told, “Yes, you both preached on hell, but while you seemed to gloat on the fact of hell, the other preached with tears in his eyes and a yearning in his heart.”

    • I don’t understand how anyone – especially preachers – can rejoice and gloat in the fact that people are going to Hell. Christ shed His blood for those people! His precious, priceless blood!
      It just blows my mind. II Peter 3:9, folks.

  2. You’re right we’re to love sinners. Absolutely. Some of these people you quoted sound mentally ill. They don’t sound like they’re in their right mind.

    Christians are to love each other and to love people who need to know Him. My Grandma’s love for me is how I came to know Jesus. John 3:17 says For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world but that the world might be saved through Him. If His job wasn’t to condemn then neither is ours.

  3. You have brought up a very important issue sister Heather and I’m glad you did. Thank you for the truth in this! How easily people judge others forgetting that they are the same. Like what you said, we are all sinners in need of His grace.

    Passing by to wish you a Merry Christmas and continuing to pray for your health. May the new year be filled with His richest spiritual blessings. Glory be to God!

    • Rosel, Thank you for stopping by! I have missed you.
      I wish you and your family a very, Merry Christmas and the Happiest of New Years!
      May God continue to richly bless you.
      ~ Heather Joy

  4. As I started reading this, my first thought was “well done!” And a Scripture even came to mind right away to quote in my comment. But as I read on, you got even better (tho the quotes were shocking, and I’m very sorry you had to hear those). And you even quoted the Scripture (from 1 Cor.) that I was going to quote to you.

    I don’t know whether you’ve had any chance to read the book I’ve been writing on loving others (if not, you can find it by just clicking on my name). But you certainly say a lot the same things it does. Good job!

  5. This is so true! I am thoroughly disgusted by the people who claim the knowledge of God, and then use that knowledge as a maul to destroy others, instead of “rightly dividing the Word of Truth”. “Knowledge puffeth up, but Charity edifieth.” You may know the Bible, but what are you actually doing with that knowledge to help others see the Light you claim? Does your life, speech, and actions reflect that?

    • I love what you quoted – so absolutely true.
      We will not reach anyone for Christ by pounding them with hatred.
      It is love which compells and constrains us.
      Merry Christmans, Andrew. I wish you the best in the upcoming year!
      ~ Heather Joy

  6. The bible clearly says that God hates sinners in psalms. But, God equally loves people with the same resolve. You can’t have one without the other. We are never to reach people in hate. Jesus clearly reached people in compassion.

  7. *heretics*
    You’re a wise woman. This should come as no surprise to you. Some people are full of hate and stupidity and use the “straight and narrow path” as an empowerment tool to feel exclusive and condem others. In short their words prove that either they are entrenched in apostaticy or that they never knew God in the first place. It’s not easy to balance boldness and grace without wisdom.

    For the LORD giveth wisdom, out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.

  8. All I know is this:

    Jesus protected an adulteress from an angry killing mob.

    He ate lunch in the house of a fraudulent tax collector.

    He associated with the social outcasts of the day – the Romans and the Samaritans.

    The only harsh words He had were for the self-righteous of His time – the Pharisees and the Sadducees. And those words were harsh but fair and coloured with love.

    Jesus is inherently part of a God-head which breathes Grace with every breath. Grace for the sinner. Grace for the righteous. Grace for the lost. Grace for the found. Grace for those who stumble along the straight and narrow path. Grace for those who stride along it with confidence. Grace for those who speak harsh words unfairly. Grace for those who refrain.

    All I know is that Jesus is my Hero, and that I am called to lavish Grace on everyone as He has lavished Grace on me.

    • Amen. and Amen. and… Amen.
      There is grace in all the Father says. There is love in all his actions. And it all ties into the fact that He is just, yet merciful. He will judge, but with forgiveness to those who ask.
      Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year, my friend.
      God Bless,
      Heather Joy

  9. Excellent post!!

    I see Christians not showing God’s love much too often. Not necessarily hating sinners as you wrote about, but acting in a way that definitely doesn’t bring glory to God or bring sinners to Christ. We are all guilty of it in some small ways, whether it be spreading gossip or telling that little white lie. I find that as a Christian we are always being watched; by God, but also by the public. We need to constantly be on guard to spread the truth as best we can!!

    Keep up the good work!! 🙂

  10. This article confirms your anti-legalistic bent. The other guys were definitely way, way out of line. They evidently know nothing of saving grace. If they could only see their own sinfulness in the light of God’s holiness, maybe they would be less hateful, and more compassionate.

    Great bit of writing. I’m humbled.

    • I think that they must have seen their own sinfulness at one point or another; how else would they have attained the salvation they claim they have? Salvation comes only through true repentence of the sinner and the grace and mercy of Jesus Christ.
      The problem is that somewhere along the way they lost sight of what God did for them. They have no grace towards others, because surely God could never do the same for someone else as He did for them.
      Don’t ever forget where God found you. Don’t ever forget what He saved your from. Don’t ever forget what He saved you for.

      Do you remember when you where drowning in the sea of sin,
      Going down for the last time, when you called upon His name?
      He reached down his nailed pierced Hand, and He lifted you out –
      So remember where you were back them and thank Him for where you are now.

      Give Him the Glory for what He’s done in your life!
      He took you from sin and strife and gave a new start.
      He took your broken life and He made you complete;
      So take off those crowns of Glory and cast them at the Savior’s feet.

      Do you remember when with all your heart you longed to serve Him,
      But you didn’t think that Jesus could use someone like you?
      Oh! but look how He’s used your life, since He brought you out –
      So remember where you were back then and thank him for where you are now!

      Give Him the Glory for what He’s done in your life!
      He took you from sin and strife and gave a new start.
      He took your broken life and He made you complete;
      So take off those crowns of Glory and cast them at the Savior’s feet.

      Amen and amen.

  11. “Though we travel the world over to find the beautiful, we must carry it with us or we find it not.” ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson

  12. Wow. Just wow. Reminds me of the quote at the start of that DC Talk song – ‘The greatest single cause of atheism in the world today are Christians who acknowledge Jesus with their lips and walk out the door and deny Him by their lifestyle, that is what an unbelieving world simply finds unbelievable.’ I believe it was Brennan Manning who said that first…

    • He basically hit the nail on the head with that.
      Or how bout this one: “The world doesn’t care how much you know until they know how much you care.”
      (I don’t know who said that first.)

  13. Love the cartoon. I am going to have to use that on a anti-calvinist post one of these days. The whole point is Christianity should be identifiable by love and charity (I Cor. 13). Don’t let the tinking cymbals get you down. Some people only know a god of hate. All we can do is keep showing them our God of love and Light in whom is no darkness at all.

    That said – there becomes a point where you need to break ties with ppl who refuse to hear you after several attempts. God has to be the one who reaches them, and if they start affecting you negatively, it’s time to cut them loose and let God take care of them. He can do it.

  14. Hi, just wanted to add. We need to throw away “hate the sin love the sinner” it’s not scriptural and it’s sure not Jesus. Let’s remember who Jesus speaks to regarding sin, the religious self righteous. He came for the sinners and they’d be left out in the cold because they were to blind to recognize it in themselves. They were not poor in spirit they were not peace makers surely not meek they likely didn’t know how to mourn except professionally. I left church a month ago because one day I realized I was not one of the chosen “few” I had do self righteously come to believe. I looked around and saw I was a Pharisee in the midst of Pharisees. I was very active, I sang in the choir, lots of friends, felt so bad for all those who just couldn’t seem to “get it”. I looked nice, my husband was the worship leader. I stayed away from all the sinners, I was truly amazing. I was ready to fly away! Thank you Jesus, what a fool I was! I listened week after week to a fire and brimstone preacher, the ones who believe they REALLY ARE sent from God because they preach the truth not that “watered down” nonsense, you know the nonsense about Jesus being the savior of the world, the one where He died on the cross for us so that our sin and sins would be and are and will always be forgiven, the silly feel good nonsense about Grace and Mercy and Love. This is what they believe is the Gospel that tickles the ears. These hell fire preachers think the only thing Jesus did is save us from hell. Jesus reconciled us to God right now, right here. It is nearly impossible to see sin in yourself when your always looking at the splinter in everyone else instead of the beam in your own eye. They know hell, but of course they’re all set, they love to have that pulpit to vent all their own anger screaming out against sin. It’s always the outward stuff, it’s always drinking, drugs and smoking and homosexuality. It’s all they know, they scream it a little too loud, that which you judge others, your likely doing the same thing! Or you want to! You haven’t come to terms with it yourself and until you do misery loves company. They decide they’e soldiers for Christ, we’ve gotta speak up! I do not believe they believe in hell! They give you the burning building analogy, I know for sure if my street were literally on fire, I would not stop to eat it sleep, I do not any longer believe in hell, only because God has revealed the truth through scripture, it’s all been a pagan lie to create fear and it’s worked and made millions for the church. There are many many proofs. I also don’t believe many want the truth because they thrive on knowing all these “others” will burn in hell. They have followed Jesus did all the wrong reasons and they don’t think it quite fair just like many relate to the older son in the prodigal son! Sorry, I went way off. God Bless

  15. Dear God-mocking Maggot;

    Thank you for taking the time out of your busy schedule of worshiping Satan and orally servicing anyone with a dollar to post this hateful message. The Holy Bible tells us that we are actually blessed by your persecution! Thanks for proving that we’re right.

    Enjoy hell. I know that Jesus and I can’t wait to watch you burn in hell for all eternity. Oh, how we’ll laugh at you as you scream in agony! Shout Glory!!

    Yours in Christ,
    – Anonymous

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